Here is the place for the lowdown on tennis, golf and other sport on campus. And if you consider band, debate or quiz bowl a sport, you have found your home. It is also the place to discuss schoolwide athletics.
By oldflame
#533242
Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I read an article in newspaper yesterday, that said the politically correct folks are upset that there are not more women and gay coaches at the D1 level. It mentioned that Title IX doesn't cover this.

Thankfully schools are not forced to meet Liberal Quotas when hiring coaches.


They are not wrong to a point.


While I am not against men coaching women's sports per se, IMHO unless a male candidate is clearly better qualified, it is better, safer and less complicated to hire women to coach women. Things are much more balanced now than they were several years ago, but 6 of Liberty's 10 women's sports are coached by men. 3 of them are coached by "lifers", but we did also just hire a man to coach women's soccer.

As badly as the liberal snowflakes may want it, I do not see the day coming when men being coached by women is anything but a once in a blue moon thing. I will point out though that our recent football commit, Sean Queen, was coached to a HS state championship in the long jump by a woman. (She happens to be his mom, who was an ace triple jumper at Liberty. :wink: )
By ballcoach15
#533243 It basically boils down to the individual coach. I know some excellent women coaches, but I know more bad ones who were hired based on their gender, more than their coaching ability .

I could say much more on this topic, but I do not want to risk being shot by a liberal.
By ballcoach15
#533245
Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.


Gosh. Color me shocked. With your bubbly and effervescent personality I find it hard to believe you didn't get along with everyone :roll:


Purple, I do get along with most people, except those who have bad attitude or bad sportsmanship, and those who have zero personality.
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By Purple Haize
#533249
ballcoach15 wrote:It basically boils down to the individual coach. I know some excellent women coaches, but I know more bad ones who were hired based on their gender, more than their coaching ability .

I could say much more on this topic, but I do not want to risk being shot by a liberal.


I could say the same about male coaches
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By Purple Haize
#533250
oldflame wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I read an article in newspaper yesterday, that said the politically correct folks are upset that there are not more women and gay coaches at the D1 level. It mentioned that Title IX doesn't cover this.

Thankfully schools are not forced to meet Liberal Quotas when hiring coaches.


They are not wrong to a point.


While I am not against men coaching women's sports per se, IMHO unless a male candidate is clearly better qualified, it is better, safer and less complicated to hire women to coach women. Things are much more balanced now than they were several years ago, but 6 of Liberty's 10 women's sports are coached by men. 3 of them are coached by "lifers", but we did also just hire a man to coach women's soccer.

As badly as the liberal snowflakes may want it, I do not see the day coming when men being coached by women is anything but a once in a blue moon thing. I will point out though that our recent football commit, Sean Queen, was coached to a HS state championship in the long jump by a woman. (She happens to be his mom, who was an ace triple jumper at Liberty. :wink: )


Ironically I am 'very close' to someone who is a female and has been offered the Bous/Men coaching position at 3 different places
By thepostman
#533253
ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.


I dont know how to even react to this. I'm not asking you to endorse the lifestyle but to think all gay people are the same is just insanity. Not surprising from you but it's still insanity.
By BuryYourDuke
#533255
ballah09 wrote:NHL and the NHLPA are pushing for more NCAA teams and are helping five schools do studies. They announced yesterday at the draft that they're going to purse schools with the resources and facilities so you would have to believe they're going to pursue Liberty. If they do, would they have any influence with the administration?

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19715829/nhl-john-buccigross-where-cawlidge-hockey-add-teams

BYD what are your thoughts on this?



I don't expect Liberty to come up in these discussions unless we insert ourselves into them. This is all about putting NCAA teams in markets the NHL thinks are viable, primarily in B1G country. They are thinking about all the big name schools that don't have NCAA hockey. The P5 wants to find another profit center, and ice hockey could easily tuck itself in behind basketball if it is established across a lot of the P5. Look for Illinois, Nebraska, and Syracuse to get thrown around a lot in this first round. Rhode Island will get some attention as well.

FWIW, the top echelon of ACHA D1 has now surpassed NCAA D3 hockey (remember there is no NCAA D2 hockey) in level of play.
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By Purple Haize
#533257
oldflame wrote:Since it certainly would have been made a big deal of had she accepted, obviously she did not. Do you mind sharing her reasons?


Have you seen ballcoach' attitude? Why put up with that?
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By Purple Haize
#533258
thepostman wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.


I dont know how to even react to this. I'm not asking you to endorse the lifestyle but to think all gay people are the same is just insanity. Not surprising from you but it's still insanity.


Snowflake :dramaqueen
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By adam42381
#533262
ballcoach15 wrote:In my opinion no school should hire a gay coach.


ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.

These types of comments would not be tolerated on most message boards. I feel sorry for you.
By thepostman
#533263
Purple Haize wrote:
thepostman wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.


I dont know how to even react to this. I'm not asking you to endorse the lifestyle but to think all gay people are the same is just insanity. Not surprising from you but it's still insanity.


Snowflake :dramaqueen


I am in the Air Force after all. We lead the way in diversity!
By ATrain
#533265
ballcoach15 wrote:In my opinion no school should hire a gay coach.


Proverbs 17:28 - "Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent." (New Living Translation)

And that will be my only response to ballcoach15's opinion.
By BuryYourDuke
#533274 Y'all are criticizing what would have been a no brainer matter of policy at your school, bc Ball Coach said it, I guess?

And no, I won't be doing anything about comments critical of sin. Maybe you can get another mod to enforce your cultural Marxist agenda...
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By Purple Haize
#533277
BuryYourDuke wrote:Y'all are criticizing what would have been a no brainer matter of policy at your school, bc Ball Coach said it, I guess?

And no, I won't be doing anything about comments critical of sin. Maybe you can get another mod to enforce your cultural Marxist agenda...


ballcoach's comments were not directed at LU. They were directed at every school and was a rather broad in its coverage
ballcoach15 wrote:In my opinion no school should hire a gay coach.


It's his opinion and he can have it. I don't think he should be banned but it was a dick move to say it. Then he only compounded it by saying
ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.

Based on his personality here and on his previous statement it sounds more like it a him problem then a gay coach problem. I have dealt with a fair number of coaches in my time. Whether they were gay our not had no bearing on their level of d----- baggery. Of which ballcoach has shown himself being on a high level.
By cruzan_flame13
#533278
BuryYourDuke wrote:
ballah09 wrote:NHL and the NHLPA are pushing for more NCAA teams and are helping five schools do studies. They announced yesterday at the draft that they're going to purse schools with the resources and facilities so you would have to believe they're going to pursue Liberty. If they do, would they have any influence with the administration?

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/19715829/nhl-john-buccigross-where-cawlidge-hockey-add-teams

BYD what are your thoughts on this?



I don't expect Liberty to come up in these discussions unless we insert ourselves into them. This is all about putting NCAA teams in markets the NHL thinks are viable, primarily in B1G country. They are thinking about all the big name schools that don't have NCAA hockey. The P5 wants to find another profit center, and ice hockey could easily tuck itself in behind basketball if it is established across a lot of the P5. Look for Illinois, Nebraska, and Syracuse to get thrown around a lot in this first round. Rhode Island will get some attention as well.

FWIW, the top echelon of ACHA D1 has now surpassed NCAA D3 hockey (remember there is no NCAA D2 hockey) in level of play.


So I'm going to get back to what was being discussed here since it was transitioned to some emotional discourse. I'll have to agree with you on this matter. The Flames will have to insert themselves in order to just exhibit themselves on the topic of expansion. It may not be this time around that LU may be part of the NHLPA D1 study, but I could see LU getting a chance sometime in the future.

I do see some reasons of how the Flames would be a nice fit. Firstly, we are in between three NHL organizations even though they may not be extremely close by (Washington Capitals, Carolina Hurricanes and Nashville Predators). Secondly, hockey and lacrosse is still a growing sport in the state of Virginia, so a college team would be very beneficial for an increase in youth programs. Thirdly, we have that connection with players from Canada since one of the former coaches is back in his home place coaching hockey.

From the looks of it, I see the NHLPA observing only schools in the BIG and possibly the PAC-12/West schools (since the new franchise in Vegas). If it was an option that we were involved in this study, would LU considered taking the next big step and accept the move up?. If so, I can only see us joining the Atlantic Hockey conference or the Hockey East Conference (if we're lucky, since Notre Dame is an affiliate with the BIG from now on).
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By thepostman
#533280
Purple Haize wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:Y'all are criticizing what would have been a no brainer matter of policy at your school, bc Ball Coach said it, I guess?

And no, I won't be doing anything about comments critical of sin. Maybe you can get another mod to enforce your cultural Marxist agenda...


ballcoach's comments were not directed at LU. They were directed at every school and was a rather broad in its coverage
ballcoach15 wrote:In my opinion no school should hire a gay coach.


It's his opinion and he can have it. I don't think he should be banned but it was a dick move to say it. Then he only compounded it by saying
ballcoach15 wrote:I know there is, at both high school and college level. And most have a "bad attitude" and bad sportsmanship, compared to "straight" coaches. I have dealt with them as a coach at high school level. I have also talked with several gay college coaches in my lifetime. They don't even register on the personality meter.

Based on his personality here and on his previous statement it sounds more like it a him problem then a gay coach problem. I have dealt with a fair number of coaches in my time. Whether they were gay our not had no bearing on their level of d----- baggery. Of which ballcoach has shown himself being on a high level.


Snowflake
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By adam42381
#533288
BuryYourDuke wrote:Y'all are criticizing what would have been a no brainer matter of policy at your school, bc Ball Coach said it, I guess?

And no, I won't be doing anything about comments critical of sin. Maybe you can get another mod to enforce your cultural Marxist agenda...

You are just as bad as ballcoach. No wonder this board is dying.
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By Purple Haize
#533289
adam42381 wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:Y'all are criticizing what would have been a no brainer matter of policy at your school, bc Ball Coach said it, I guess?

And no, I won't be doing anything about comments critical of sin. Maybe you can get another mod to enforce your cultural Marxist agenda...

You are just as bad as ballcoach. No wonder this board is dying.


I'm glad h es not enforcing anything. I'm a fan of the free flow of ideas. I couldn't disagree more with ballcoach's statements and have let it be known. But I certainly don't advocate banning the old fellow. Mocking? Sure. Fire away. His comments were directed at coaching, not morals. How anyone can say a persons sexual orientation makes them a good or bad coach is laughable and should be out there to be laughed at.
By BuryYourDuke
#533293
Purple Haize wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:Y'all are criticizing what would have been a no brainer matter of policy at your school, bc Ball Coach said it, I guess?

And no, I won't be doing anything about comments critical of sin. Maybe you can get another mod to enforce your cultural Marxist agenda...

You are just as bad as ballcoach. No wonder this board is dying.


How anyone can say a persons sexual orientation makes them a good or bad coach is laughable and should be out there to be laughed at.


Yeah, I somehow missed that comment from him in the thread. Obviously a totally ridiculous statement, even for him.

However, I at least, will not be censoring him simply bc that wouldn't be PC on other boards. Sorry to the token liberal guy.
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By Purple Haize
#533296 BYD - I'll stand with you in your position of non censorship. Put forth your position and defend. The Public Square is where ideas are heard and judged on merit
By thepostman
#533298 I completely agree that ballcoach's thoughts shouldn't be censored just like my thoughts on him being completely misguided shouldn't be censored. Censorship and the attempt to do so has never ended well.

I know it is confusing when our President attacks the 1st amendment every day ;)
By ATrain
#533312 On the topic of censorship, I am against it in this case.
By cruzan_flame13
#533316 :BS
thepostman wrote:I completely agree that ballcoach's thoughts shouldn't be censored just like my thoughts on him being completely misguided shouldn't be censored. Censorship and the attempt to do so has never ended well.

I know it is confusing when our President attacks the 1st amendment every day ;)


I think you're confusing the right of an opinion and a deliberate attempt of accusing a person or group with no evidence in order to destroy their credibility and even to harm the individual(s). That is not included in the 1st amendment and there's a huge difference between such actions.
By ATrain
#533340 Seriously guys get a room, or go behind a bush or something
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By Class of 20Something
#533342
ATrain wrote:Seriously guys get a room, or go behind a bush or something


A burning bush?
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By Purple Haize
#533343
Class of 20Something wrote:
ATrain wrote:Seriously guys get a room, or go behind a bush or something


A burning bush?


When he says bush.....
By ATrain
#533346
Class of 20Something wrote:
ATrain wrote:Seriously guys get a room, or go behind a bush or something


A burning bush?


You should seriously get that checked out
By ATrain
#533347
Purple Haize wrote:
When he says bush.....


Referencing a place recently vacated by a certain someone
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By Purple Haize
#533679
JK37 wrote:Here's a question, ballcoach : the ones with the bad attitudes and such...how'd you KNOW they were gay? :dontgetit


Because they had bad attitudes. Duh. Only those with bad attitudes are gay
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By R i
#533767 Just catching up on all the fantastic content in the "Ian McCaw" thread.
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By Class of 20Something
#533769
R i wrote:Just catching up on all the fantastic content in the "Ian McCaw" thread.


It seems the hate has died down a bit. FBS has softened it as has the schedule we've somehow fallen into.
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By Purple Haize
#533772
Class of 20Something wrote:
R i wrote:Just catching up on all the fantastic content in the "Ian McCaw" thread.


It seems the hate has died down a bit. FBS has softened it as has the schedule we've somehow fallen into.


No. Time has. People have moved on. It was inevitable. I'm positive it will pop up from time to time. LU and he will always be linked to the going one at Baylor.
By ballcoach15
#533777 JK37, reference your question above, I can watch a coach and tell if straight or gay, 99% of the time. I had lot of experience with gays in military. There were some in probably every unit I was in. I had to process a few out of the Army. Lot of paperwork. back then all they had to do to get out of Army, was say, " I'm gay and I want out".
Thus I know a gay when I see one. (99% of the time). Sometimes I get fooled, but not often.
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By Class of 20Something
#533783
ballcoach15 wrote:JK37, reference your question above, I can watch a coach and tell if straight or gay, 99% of the time. I had lot of experience with gays in military. There were some in probably every unit I was in. I had to process a few out of the Army. Lot of paperwork. back then all they had to do to get out of Army, was say, " I'm gay and I want out".
Thus I know a gay when I see one. (99% of the time). Sometimes I get fooled, but not often.


I have never seen a straight man brag about his Gaydar.
By ATrain
#533799
ballcoach15 wrote: I had lot of experience with gays in military.


Yes, I'm sure you did. Sorry none of them worked out for you.
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By BJWilliams
#533800 Umm...if BC worked for me and I saw these kinds of comments (regardless who they were about or my own personal thoughts about it)...Id have him fired immediately
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By Class of 20Something
#533801
BJWilliams wrote:Umm...if BC worked for me and I saw these kinds of comments (regardless who they were about or my own personal thoughts about it)...Id have him fired immediately


I feel like his comments are why the right gets a bad wrap as a whole. It's certainly not the view of the majority, but it sure is one of the louder ones.
By cruzan_flame13
#533802 This thread has went off topic. I do have something to ask that involves IM. So I've observed the Flames site on csnbbs and there was a question that came about. It was about the final update on the 2019 schedule but also on the the Bill's expansion. Will it be McCaw to reveal the design sketch(es) of the expanded stadium or is it the construction crew/JLF Jr? Or all of the above? I'm sure someone brought up the time frame on the revealing of these announcements, so I'm going to ask when was the approximate time?